hey everyone.. i just wanted to share some thoughts with you. i've been on this forum for quite some time now and as far as i know the forum does not tolerate bestiality or child porn. However, in many toons threads i've come across such pics.. what i mean is that are we not behaving like hypocrites when we allow anime pics like these and ban them in real? even if they are toon pics, the message is the same.. if we are against, we should assume our position no matter in what form the cases arise.. i certainly feel so. i might be wrong and you can disagree with me.. what is your opinion guys?

am sorry if i offended someone..

 

Several months ago somebody joined the forum and posted a lot of child porn anime. I told him it wasn't acceptable, but he justified it on the grounds that it was just cartoons.The next person who looked at it reported him and he was banned immediately. ALL child porn, including anime, is forbidden here. It does appear that child porn fiction is not included, only graphic child porn.

 

That is not true and you know it. Drawn and computer generated sex is allowed by the moderators and the supreme court and the first amendment. It hurts no child drawing it or looking at it. I myself have put up some lolicon and i am still here.

 

It is true. I have the person in my friends list, since we became friends before he was banned, but I do not intend to look through all 800+ people in my friends list to find him. What you got away with is not necessarily allowed; it may have just been unnoticed.

 

It WAS noticed actually and was given the green light. I WAS apprehensive to do that due to the paranoia here. But they know the law. Of couse they can ban it if they want, they can ban ANYTHING they want, but they choose not too. Get your facts right

Congrats on your 800 plus friends, im sure you are ALL very close

 

Let me play devil's advocate here. And bear in mind that this is not my opinion; I'm just providing an alternate viewpoint that you might not have considered.

What if anime and toon child porn satisfies the urges of pedophiles without harming any children? You have to admit that it's better for a pedophile to get off on drawings than to go rape a child. As far as I know there have been no studies done, but how much does drawn kiddie porn prevent children from being abused as opposed to causing children to be abused? It probably works both ways, but if the net result is less children being abused because the pedophiles have a harmless outlet for their energy, shouldn't it actually be encouraged?

Again, this is just to get people thinking. I agree with probably everyone here that child porn involving real children should be illegal, but when it's just drawings (assuming no child actually modeled for it), it's not so clear.

And just to be clear, IANAP. (I am not a pedophile)

 

You are suggesting that we should encourge pedophiles to look at it? That's one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. Real or not it's still wrong in my opinion. Wipe the sick fucks off the planet is the only way to insure that they don't act upon their desires. Again just my opinion.

We'll say for the sake of argument that anime & drawings are a better outlet for their desires. What happens when the fake stuff isn't enough for them anymore?

 

Knee jerk reactions are so much more satisfying than constitutional rights arent they?

 

Fucking class!!...:excited:

 

This arguement is on so many threads its getting sad. Toons Doing Naughty Stuff thread has been around quite a while and has not been repremended for it. Honestly i dont care whatever you get your kicks from is not my buisness as long as it is legal, and should be treated as such.

 

The irony here is delicious. You have a desire to kill a bunch of people that have not yet committed a crime, simply because they might commit a crime in the future. You worry me. I wonder what we should do to insure that you don't act upon your desires.

My point is that we don't know if that will ever happen.

Let's consider two hypothetical cases.

Case 1 (The argument for making drawings legal):

John is a pedophile. He has a sexual attraction to kids. He hangs out at the local playground watching kids play. He has no outlet for his desires, so he starts fantasizing about abducting one of them. That fantasy eventually becomes more and more real, until he realizes that he just might get away with it. Then he discovers drawn kiddie porn on the internet. Now he has some way to satisfy his cravings, and he never does get around to his original plan.

Case 2 (The argument for making drawings illegal):

Bob is a man with healthy sexual appetites. Then he discovers drawn kiddie porn on the internet. It starts him thinking about it, but eventually it's not enough. He then moves on to photographs. Eventually that's not enough either, and he starts hanging around the local playground watching kids play...

Which is more likely?

Truthfully, I have no idea. It very well could be that all pedophiles are like Bob, and none are like John. But what if John is more likely than Bob? If that's the case, aren't laws that outlaw drawn child porn counterproductive to the goal of preventing pedophiles from harming children?

Again, just something to think about.

 

I don't believe anyone has been banned for posting cartoons.



And to the OP ... bestiality is banned because it is against the law in the country where this site has servers.

 

bad. totally disagree with it!

 

i think we would ban all pics even cartoons that depic it.

 

In many countries looking at lolicon is just as illegal as watching any other child porn. Although there might not be any real cases where people having lolicon on their computers have been sentenced, it's still illegal in some countries.

Also, about the bestiality, where the servers are hosted(Netherlands?) it's illegal, so therefor we can't post it.

EDIT: Also, I have to add, that in someplaces watching lolicon/child porn, just like opening a thread and coming across it here by accident, is illegal as well.

 

Personally I deplore child porn whether it is cartoons or the real thing.

As for animals, well since I am no animal rights activist, I could care less. Now, would I eat some dogfucked pussy...nope.

 

Sorry guys, but im going to have to say THIS IS A PORN FORUM. The whole point of this is for people to openly express their own sexuality, and if you cant do that on a porn forum, Its really just sad. There should be as little here non-accepted as possible.

Now Zoophilia is a sexual orientation, so i have to say it would be wrong not to accept it legitimately, but i fully understand and agree with the choice not hosting it if the server is located in a country where it is illegal. Also, the whole reason child porn is illegal, is because the children themselves are being abused and forced to be abused without being able to give legal consent, so making cartoons is in no a way a problem to me because there is no crime being commited and no exploitation taking place.

 

I don't see what the big fuss is all about

Different people have different taste.

 

because no one cares about the message. in real child porn someone is being hurt. in stories (which this site allows) no one is hurt. As for bestiality the dogs are almost always willing participants, and will bite if they don't want to be played with. While a person COULD probably train a dog to participate with treats, I think most people aren't that cruel, and would just get another dog that is willing to have fun.

 

I don't really see a problem with the cartoon stuff.

It is illegal in Canada btw, and other countries. Even text depicting child abuse/sex is illegal in Canada. I believe that a guy was arrested a while ago for having pictures of Bart Simpson and other young cartoon characters having sex.