Really? You expect us to buy this crap posted on some nefarious forum? And you guys whine about Raw Story. This is too funny!

 

I love this whole DEEP STATE thing! They can't quite identify who of what the DEEP STATE is, but they are 1000% sure if exists and it's out to only get conservatives!

Victims!

 

Hillary's campaign was almost as dirty as she is. Given who....what....she is, I guess that's not surprising.
Proving it though, given the way the administrative and judicial deep state keep covering for each other, will be more difficult.
But karma's a bitch, and some day the whole rotten structures' gonna come tumbling down.

Even Without The Jury Convicting Michael Sussmann, The Special Counsel Has Won
Measuring Special Counsel John Durham’s performance by the outcome in United States v. Sussmann would be a mistake.
By: Margot Cleveland

May 31, 2022

Judging the success of Special Counsel John Durham’s probe into the investigation of President Trump and those associated with the Trump campaign and administration should not rest on the outcome of the Sussmann prosecution, however. In fact, even if the special counsel’s office scores a conviction in its false statement case against Sussmann, that would do little to right the scales of justice unbalanced by more than five years of the politically motivated abuse of power that began as Crossfire Hurricane and continued even after Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued his final report.

So, measuring Durham’s performance by the outcome in United States v. Sussmann would be a mistake. Also, especially in the case of an acquittal, it would ignore the valuable information exposed related to the broader Spygate scandal. Using that gauge as a measure, the special counsel’s office succeeded wildly.

Durham Proved the Collusion Hoax Was a Hillary Clinton Enterprise
On September 19, 2016, Sussmann provided Baker data and whitepapers purporting to show a secret communications network between the Russia-based Alfa Bank and Donald Trump. In indicting Sussmann for allegedly lying to Baker during this meeting, the special counsel’s office revealed in its 27-page speaking indictment “a scandal much deeper than merely Sussmann’s role in a second Russian hoax — a scandal that entangles the Clinton campaign, multiple internet companies, two federally-funded university researchers, and a complicit media.”

Since then, proof that the Clinton campaign held near-total responsibility for launching the Russia-collusion hoax mounted with nearly every legal filing. It eventually culminated during the Sussmann trial when former Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified that Hillary Clinton personally “agreed with the decision” to feed the unverified—and quickly debunked—theory that Trump was communicating secretly with Russia through a back-door Alfa Bank channel.

Other trial evidence confirmed the Clinton campaign paid the law firm Perkins and Coie a flat fee of as much as $130,000 per month during the campaign, and authorized lead counsel Marc Elias to hire Fusion GPS for opposition research. Billing records then showed Sussmann charged his time for working the Alfa Bank hoax—including the time he spent meeting with the FBI’s General Counsel Baker—to the Clinton campaign. In fact, late last week, the jury in the Sussmann case learned that Sussmann even charged the Clinton campaign for two thumb drives purchased at Staples used for the Alfa Bank project.

While the Sussmann case focused on the Alfa Bank hoax, the detailed evidence presented over the course of that prosecution also confirmed the Clinton campaign paid for Fusion GPS to compile the Christopher Steele dossier. Given Mook’s testimony that he sought Clinton’s approval to push the Alfa Bank claims to the media, it is only reasonable to infer she likewise personally green-lighted the peddling of the claims contained in the Steele dossier.

But even if Clinton did not personally approve of peddling the lies contained in the Steele dossier, the Sussmann case established that her campaign paid for the lies—including those emanating from the Russian-national Igor Danchenko. And Special Counsel Durham’s indictment against Danchenko reveals that individuals hired by the Clinton campaign fed that Russian disinformation to U.S. media, law enforcement, and intelligence agencies.

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https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/3...michael-sussmann-the-special-counsel-has-won/

 

And they constantly ignore all the proven facts.

Such as multiple congressional committees, the intelligence community, and Muller uncovered massive collusion between the Trump campaign and Putin/Russia.

They FBI vegan the investigation into the Russian collusion on July 31, 2016 when George Papadopoulos bragged to an Australasian diplomat they were working with the Russians. He alerted Australian intelligence and they in turn alerted the FBI and the investigation was opened. That has been investigated by the Inspector General and found the investigation was justified.

Trump and treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans have tried to deny Putin/Russia helped Trump get elected for 5 years and that is where Durham comes in. Bill Barr who was acting as Trump's personal attorney instead of Attorney General agreed to do Trump's biding and try to create a counter narrative that the Obama administration and Clinton and her campaign spied on the Trump campaign. And treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans that multiple people in the administration and Hillary Clinton herself were going to jail.

But after three years Durham has found no such thing. The most he has found is three people he is accusing of lying to the FBI. Which is very ironic since treasonous conservative.America Hating/Republicans considered lying to the FBI patriotism since they were lying to protect Trump. And they cheered when Trump pardoned them. Of those three one has pleaded guilty to altering an email, Sussmann has been acquitted, and the third is scheduled to go on trial this fall. And all he is being accused of is lying about being a source for the Steele dossier.

None of that has anything to do with the origins of the investigation and Durham has found no wrong doing on the part of the Obama administration Hillary Clinton or her campaign.

But treasonous conservative/America Hating/Republicans cannot accept all those simple facts and just admit they are wrong. Because they are blind brainwashed parrots that are Traitor Trump cult followers with a shared psychosis with their Chosen One.

How John Durham’s Probe Has Exposed Trump’s Russia Con
His three-year investigation has so far shown the only hoax was orchestrated by the former president.

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Special counsel John Durham leaves federal court in Washington last month.Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP

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Donald Trump has bad timing. On Friday, he sent a letter to the Pulitzer Prize Board reiterating his demand that it rescind the awards given to the New York Times and the Washington Post in 2018 for their coverage of the Trump-Russia scandal. (That’s not what he called it.) He based this request on the prosecution of Democratic lawyer Michael Sussmann, who was indicted by special counsel John Durham for allegedly lying to the FBI during a September 2016 meeting when he shared with the bureau computer data research that suggested there might be a connection between a Trump-related business and Alfa Bank, a large Russian financial entity. Trump claimed the Sussmann case showed the “Russia hoax was a dirty campaign trick promulgated by Crooked Hillary Clinton and her associates.” Five days later, the jury, after only several hours of deliberation, acquitted Sussmann. Oops.

The quick not-guilty verdict was a sharp slap at Durham’s three-year-long investigation, which was launched by William Barr, when he was Trump’s loyalist attorney general, and which has come across as a political crusade mounted to undermine the various Trump-Russia investigations. Durham was tasked by Barr to investigate the origins of the FBI’s probe of the Russian attack on the 2016 election (which, according to multiple investigations, was waged to help Trump win) and the interactions between Trump associates and Russian operatives. Put simply, Durham’s job was to find that Trump had been set up by the bureau. When the Justice Department in late 2019 issued a report concluding the FBI had legitimate cause to investigate the Russian assault and the Trump campaign, Durham, in an unusual move, released a statement declaring, “we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.” A-ha, Trumpists exclaimed. Durham was on track to reveal that the FBI investigation was bogus from the get-go and Trump was right: It was all a hoax and a witch hunt.


Yet after years of toil, Durham has produced nothing to suggest the Russia investigation was a Deep State hit-job against Trump. He has brought three cases that have nothing to do with the origins of the investigation. One involved an FBI lawyer who altered an email used to obtain a search warrant after the investigation was started. (The attorney pleaded guilty and was sentenced to a year of probation.) Another led to the indictment of Igor Danchenko, a source for the so-called Steele dossier, for allegedly lying to the FBI about his sources. His trial is scheduled to begin in October. This prosecution, too, has nothing to do with the origin or legitimacy of the FBI’s investigation, which was not triggered by the Steele reports. The third was the Sussmann case that just exploded in Durham’s face. It, too, was essentially unconnected to the FBI’s core investigation, given that the meeting in question happened months after the bureau began examining the Russian assault and that the FBI quickly dismissed the Trump-Alfa Bank tie.

Despite declaring over two years ago that he had reason to question the FBI’s opening of the Russia investigation, Durham has failed to make good on his assertion. His investigation has yielded zilch in this regard. His prosecutions are all sideshows.

But Durham has done Trump and his cultists a great favor by providing material they can exploit for one of their favorite pastimes: deflection.

For over five years, Trump and his minions have endeavored to beat back the Trump-Russia scandal with denial and distraction. They have done all they could to change the subject from the basics of the affair: the Kremlin attacked the 2016 election to help Trump; while this assault was underway, the Trump camp had troubling interactions with Russian operatives and was told the Kremlin intended to covertly assist Trump; Trump hid from the public his effort to land a major development deal in Moscow (for which he sought help from Vladimir Putin); the Trump campaign aided and abetted the Russian attack by denying and/or downplaying it; and, as president, Trump tried to impede the investigation. All of these are confirmed facts that make a damning case that Trump committed a grand act of betrayal to become president. Trump and his defenders, though, have tried to change the subject: the problematic Steele dossier, an improperly obtained search warrant, baseless conspiracy theories about the Democratic Party’s computer servers being whisked away to Ukraine, and, most recently, the Sussmann meeting.


Look at Trump’s letter to the Pulitzer board. It dwells on details that came out during the Sussmann trial about the Clinton campaign promoting the Alfa Bank allegation. This case, Trump claims, shows that Clintonites were trying to spread opposition research about him, particularly iffy data about a purported computer server tie between his business and Alfa Bank. He declares he was the victim of “shameful smears” from the Clinton campaign—and these covert attacks were the basis for the FBI investigation. The Clinton crew, of course, was trying to disseminate negative information about Trump—especially worrisome material about a possible Trump-Russia connection. But this had nothing to do with the investigation already begun by the FBI, which was launched independently of the Clinton effort.

Trump writes, “I again call on you to rescind the Prize you awarded based on blatantly fake, derogatory and defamatory news. If you choose not to do so, we will see you in court.” Putting aside whether Trump can sue a journalism awards committee for content it honors, he is yet again engaging in deflection. Nothing in the Sussmann case undercuts the investigations or the reporting related to the central elements of the scandal. Trump is trying to turn the thin gruel Durham has served up into a feast.

In the reality-based world, Durham actually has undermined Trump and his bogus narrative. He has failed to demonstrate that the Russia investigation was a witch hunt or hoax cooked up by Trump’s enemies. His small-beer cases do not challenge any of the main findings of the investigations, which justifiably taint Trump’s 2016 victory and presidency. Durham’s work (so far) shows that Trump’s attempts to distract from the scandal have been nothing but a big con. Trump shrieks about Sussmann, the Steele dossier, and other matters so the public doesn’t see what’s clearly there: a record of misdeeds, lies, and treachery. In a way, Durham has provided a valuable service. His inability to uncover evidence of a hoax confirms that Trump’s denials and diversions have been the real hoax all along.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/06/how-john-durhams-probe-has-exposed-trumps-russia-con/

 

Poor stumbler.
Still locked on the whole trump/russian conspiracy thingy.
It's been refuted for over a year.
Yet he still spins propaganda like; the Don JR. meeting at trump tower with RUSSIANS!! (proven not to be a conspiracy or even illegal)
And the Steele dossier!! That proves the collusion/conspiracy/cooperation! (No it doesn't, in fact, stumbler hasn't been able to point to a single frame of the pee tape)

It's OK. We got this.
Mid terms approach

 

Failed to prive Russia probe was a hoax!!



Thinskin

 

While @shootersa tries to pick up the goal posts he set and run off the field with them lets all get a good laugh at his just glaring hypocrisy and cowardliness.

But now lets take a good look and get a good laugh out of what @shootersa has always said about "indictments" in the past.

 

A pundit opines that Durham failed to disprove the Russian/trump connection.
@thinskin twirls and hoots in joy.
Ignoring that the whole conspiracy based mainly on the Steele thingy was disproved well over a year ago.

You know, unless thinskin has that pesky pee tape and is willing to share it...........

 

Poor stumbler. Just will not admit his error. Not in his make up. OI! @stumbler ! Remember?
Now you spend even more time down in the musty old archives digging up meaningless posts about what Shooter says about indictments.

This was a simple issue;
Shooter said INDICTMENTS.
You agreed.
Sussman was indicted.
You refuse to admit you were wrong.
You shoulda been a politician.
Cause you sure as hell have the lying and hypocrisy down, don't you?

 

BLAH...BLAH...BLAH.

 

Its OK.
Better stumbler gets to twirl and hoot than whirl and shoot, eh?

 

Ok I have been saving this. Actually @shootersa never said "indictment." That is something he made up after the fact. Because he was proven wrong but is incapable of admitting it.

 

Liar.
Already posted the chain for all to see.
Really. Turn in your weapons and take off that vest.

 

As usual the liar appears to be you. I have looked and found nothing.



But in the meantime what about this? In your own words you claim indictments are meaningless. But now you turn around and try to use indictments as the gold standard.

 

While we're at it, stumbler, tell us, not a single one of the allegations in the Steele dossier has been confirmed.
Not. One.
Was hillary being responsible having that load of lies pushed out to the media and especially to the FBI/DOJ?

 

Ok I did say if HILLARY and her crew is not indicted will you admit it. I was wrong about that. See that's not so hard to admit it when you are wrong.

So now are you going to admit you are wrong about HILLARY not getting indicted and a jury has ruled Sussmann was not part of HILLARY'S crew.


And do you still stand by these statements on indictments?


An inept prosecutor with no evidence and no crime can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

As you well know I have already posted all the things in the Steele dossier that have been proven true. But I will do it again right here if you agree to admit it and concede many things in the dossier actually turned out to be true. Do you agree to that?

And the Steele dossier had nothing to do with the origins of the investigation into the Trump/Putin collusion. And the Clinton campaign had nothing to do with either Christopher Steele taking his dossier to the FBI or it coming public. Steele did that entirely on his own because he had worked with the FBI as a source for years and felt that what he was uncovering had to be reported to the FBI as a matter of national security.

 

You keep spinning it, you fraud;
Sussman wasn't part of Hillary's crew?
You really posted that.
Michael Sussman was the attorney for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. Now, if the attorney for the Clinton campaign isn't part of the crew, Shooter can't imagine who would be part of the crew.
Shooter never imagined he'd have to identify, by name, who the "crew" was.
Lesson learned.

shootersa said: ↑Yeah, If hillary or her people aren't indicted or trump is shooter will admit he was wrong.

Yes, Shooter stands by the statement that an inept prosecutor can get an indictment of a ham sandwich.
What's your point?
Whatever it is, it has nothing whatever to do with our agreement, does it?

As far as the Steele dossier, you have not shown that any part of that tomb of lies has been verified, and you can try to do that now, or you can take a leap off the pier. Shooter cares not at all, and no, he's done making any kind of agreement with you. The only thing that ever comes out of agreements with you is, you'll never own up to them without a big old fight that in the end isn't worth the insults and lies you spew when you're proven wrong.

Just for the record;
The Steele dossier was the result of Hillary Clinton hiring Fusion to get dirt on Trump. Clinton had Perkins Coie (the law firm Sussman worked for) pay Fusion and attempt to hide the payment. Fusion hired Steele. Steele is a foreign agent which is why the Clinton campaign tried to distance itself from Steele and Fusion. What they did was illegal. Steele made up a pack of fucking lies, and he knew they were lies. Steele publicized them, as did Sussman, with Hillary's blessing, to the media and to the FBI/DOJ.
Hillary Clinton Personally Approved Steele Dossier (nextnewsnetwork.com)

Steele was doing what he thought was right? Bullshit. Steele, and Sussman, did what they were paid to do by Hillary Clinton. And it was illegal, immoral and the lowest of low dirty politics. You should be proud.

 

I am not going to play your phony lying fraud games. Sussman was acquitted of being part of Hillary's people. And you said HILLARY was going to be indicted not just anyone who might have had the remotest connection to her campaign.

And I am prepared to prove right now that not only several things in the Steele dossier have been proven true I an also prove how many times you have played this phony lying fraud of yours. But I am not going to do it until you go on the record right here that you will admit many things in the Steele dosser were proven true.

I have no problem at all admitting when I am wrong. But you are incapable of admitting when you are wrong. As you have proven here once again.

Now put up or shut the fuck up about the Steele dossier. Because more things in the Steele dossier have proven true than have been proven wrong. In fact only a few things have been proven wrong in the Steele dossier while other things like the pee pee tapes have not been proven false. People in Russia have even said of course we have the tapes.

But I am done with your phony fraud games until you go on the record right here,

PS But I am not done laughing at your outrageous hypocrisy that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich and are meaningless if its Trump or one of his inner circle. But contend an indictement is the gold standard if its Clinton or even anyone remotely connected to her,

 

Silly stumbler.
See the arrow next to the quoted posts?
If you click on the arrow it will take you to the original post.
That can't be changed.
↑Yeah, If hillary or her people aren't indicted or trump is shooter will admit he was wrong.

Indictment. You agreed then. Sussman, the attorney for the hillary election campaign was indicted. Deal with it.

Shooter sees no reason to keep entering into agreements with you. You're a very poor loser. And an asshole. Give up your weapons, get some help, and take off that vest.

Two other items:
Shooter never said hillary would be indicted. He said she should be. Several times.
No allegation in the Steele dossier has been confirmed. Many have been proven false. If you have that pee tape we'd love to see it. Or cohens passport showing he went to Russia.